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		<title>By: asdfgt20h</title>
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		<title>By: asdfgt23e</title>
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		<title>By: Clariaraics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clariaraics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: john mcmasters</title>
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		<dc:creator>john mcmasters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost every idea on the CEF or my list requires funding besides the will to do it and politically 5 votes in whichever governmental jurisdiction the idea may manifest.

Does anyone believe that impact fees on new construction might be a viable new funding source for these excellent ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost every idea on the CEF or my list requires funding besides the will to do it and politically 5 votes in whichever governmental jurisdiction the idea may manifest.</p>
<p>Does anyone believe that impact fees on new construction might be a viable new funding source for these excellent ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Summer Teal Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Summer Teal Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the points that you both make.  Because, going back to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.thecreativecoast.org/primarily-speaking-less-than-20-sucks/2008/07/16&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; voting blog post&lt;/a&gt; , it&#039;s the decisions and demands that we make every day that will make the difference. Let us each start living a little better, voting a little more and generally being the change we want to see.  That can start today even if CEF&#039;s proposals can&#039;t.

Wow, am I sounding like MJ in the mirror or what?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the points that you both make.  Because, going back to the <a href="http://blog.thecreativecoast.org/primarily-speaking-less-than-20-sucks/2008/07/16" rel="nofollow"> voting blog post</a> , it&#8217;s the decisions and demands that we make every day that will make the difference. Let us each start living a little better, voting a little more and generally being the change we want to see.  That can start today even if CEF&#8217;s proposals can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Wow, am I sounding like MJ in the mirror or what?!</p>
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		<title>By: cari</title>
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		<dc:creator>cari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all about #4. 

Refreshing news to hear that there is a process in place. Hopefully this checklist will entice us all to tackle the most obtainable of issues (the couple that are non-government related) first and foremost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all about #4. </p>
<p>Refreshing news to hear that there is a process in place. Hopefully this checklist will entice us all to tackle the most obtainable of issues (the couple that are non-government related) first and foremost.</p>
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		<title>By: John McMasters</title>
		<link>http://blog.thecreativecoast.org/getting-creative-about-going-green-chatham-environmental-forum-priority-for-creative-economy/2008/06/30#comment-11942</link>
		<dc:creator>John McMasters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Summer it is. All that you have said is true, some really great people many of whom are my friends. How long would you personally accept as a point at which something should migrate from &quot;CONCEPT&quot; to a reality? 6 months more, 12 months more, 24 months more?

There&#039;s a saying, &quot;what you measure, you produce.&quot; I believe it means that if one never sets and achieves a real outcome, one accomplishes little. Likewise, if you only plan and plan only, you go nowhere.

It took myself and a handful of people exactly 120 days to successfully bring into law curbside recycling as an ordinance on the books at the city of Savannah. The first pick up of material is 5 months and a handful of days away.

We didn&#039;t need to &quot;study it&quot; we didn&#039;t need to &quot;meet and have cocktails&quot; we just did it. Maybe that&#039;s the difference between zeal and political meandering. Both have a place, both are options but zeal will beat out meandering every time.

I do not have concerns about CEF, I have doubts about how concepts get beyond the ether and become the dust of the arena. I do know how to measure and results are what matter. I support CEF efforts while we all await for a little dust to rise up from all the meandering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Summer it is. All that you have said is true, some really great people many of whom are my friends. How long would you personally accept as a point at which something should migrate from &#8220;CONCEPT&#8221; to a reality? 6 months more, 12 months more, 24 months more?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a saying, &#8220;what you measure, you produce.&#8221; I believe it means that if one never sets and achieves a real outcome, one accomplishes little. Likewise, if you only plan and plan only, you go nowhere.</p>
<p>It took myself and a handful of people exactly 120 days to successfully bring into law curbside recycling as an ordinance on the books at the city of Savannah. The first pick up of material is 5 months and a handful of days away.</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t need to &#8220;study it&#8221; we didn&#8217;t need to &#8220;meet and have cocktails&#8221; we just did it. Maybe that&#8217;s the difference between zeal and political meandering. Both have a place, both are options but zeal will beat out meandering every time.</p>
<p>I do not have concerns about CEF, I have doubts about how concepts get beyond the ether and become the dust of the arena. I do know how to measure and results are what matter. I support CEF efforts while we all await for a little dust to rise up from all the meandering.</p>
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		<title>By: Summer Teal Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Summer Teal Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, call me Summer!

I can certainly understand your concerns that the CEF may be just another long, drawn out process that circumvents decisions, like some you&#039;ve proposed, that could be implemented today.  From being on the sidelines as this revamping of CEF has unfolded, I can say that this is a group of very intelligent, creative and well-informed citizens from all sectors.  This process, while tedious and time-consuming, could stand to produce some great policy recommendations and guidance to elected officials who may not represent the balance and enviro-intuition of the Forum.  

Just more ammo for the arsenal in my opinion!  Though I certainly appreciate zeal to get it done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, call me Summer!</p>
<p>I can certainly understand your concerns that the CEF may be just another long, drawn out process that circumvents decisions, like some you&#8217;ve proposed, that could be implemented today.  From being on the sidelines as this revamping of CEF has unfolded, I can say that this is a group of very intelligent, creative and well-informed citizens from all sectors.  This process, while tedious and time-consuming, could stand to produce some great policy recommendations and guidance to elected officials who may not represent the balance and enviro-intuition of the Forum.  </p>
<p>Just more ammo for the arsenal in my opinion!  Though I certainly appreciate zeal to get it done.</p>
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		<title>By: John McMasters</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McMasters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Simpson

I posted as a means to show that there are many tangible ways to start achieving the mission of making Chatham County the green county. My concern is that the CEF may be well intentioned but is all rhetoric after a year of meeting and discussing. Elected representatives have the authority to make these concepts reality in the next meeting (2 weeks).

Look again at the CEF top priorities list, no where do you find anything telling us &quot;how&quot; and &quot;when&quot; these concepts will be fulfilled. My list requires only two things: 1) the will to do them and 2)five votes on the county commission or city council.

Thanks for posting and ride safely.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Simpson</p>
<p>I posted as a means to show that there are many tangible ways to start achieving the mission of making Chatham County the green county. My concern is that the CEF may be well intentioned but is all rhetoric after a year of meeting and discussing. Elected representatives have the authority to make these concepts reality in the next meeting (2 weeks).</p>
<p>Look again at the CEF top priorities list, no where do you find anything telling us &#8220;how&#8221; and &#8220;when&#8221; these concepts will be fulfilled. My list requires only two things: 1) the will to do them and 2)five votes on the county commission or city council.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting and ride safely.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Summer Teal Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Summer Teal Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some really awesome suggestions here.  Thanks for sharing.  My favorites?  Numbers 4(!), 9 (ahem, SEDA) and 10.  I mean, why is there only a northbound bike lane?  I am a timid biker and it&#039;s such a hassle returning home sans bike lane.  

Well, in the meantime I will be doing alot of #15.  

Thanks John!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really awesome suggestions here.  Thanks for sharing.  My favorites?  Numbers 4(!), 9 (ahem, SEDA) and 10.  I mean, why is there only a northbound bike lane?  I am a timid biker and it&#8217;s such a hassle returning home sans bike lane.  </p>
<p>Well, in the meantime I will be doing alot of #15.  </p>
<p>Thanks John!</p>
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